Legislature(2021 - 2022)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/17/2022 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:03:15 AM Start
09:03:41 AM Presentation: Governor's Fy23 Budget Amendments
10:53:25 AM Adjourn
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Neil Steininger, Director of OMB
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 17, 2022                                                                                          
                         9:03 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:03:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:03 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Neil Steininger, Director, Office  of Management and Budget,                                                                    
Office of the Governor.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Kim   Guay,  Director,   Office   of  Children's   Services,                                                                    
Anchorage; Sylvan  Robb, Assistant  Commissioner, Department                                                                    
of  Health  and  Social Services;  David  LePain,  Petroleum                                                                    
Geologist,  Div.  of  Geological  and  Geophysical  Surveys,                                                                    
Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: GOVERNOR'S FY23 BUDGET AMENDMENTS                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:03:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  relayed that the committee  would consider                                                                    
the  governor's  budget  amendments   as  presented  by  the                                                                    
director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB).                                                                          
9:04:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NEIL STEININGER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE  OF   THE  GOVERNOR,  explained  that   he  would  be                                                                    
following  the spreadsheet  that listed  out the  individual                                                                    
amendments  (copy  on file).  He  shared  that he  would  be                                                                    
citing primarily the right-hand  side of the spreadsheet and                                                                    
noted that  the left-hand  side offered  the page  number in                                                                    
the backup packet that could  be located on the OMB website,                                                                    
as  well as  the section,  page, and  line within  the given                                                                    
appropriation bill.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked Mr. Steininger  to review  an entire                                                                    
page, and then wait for  questions at the conclusion of each                                                                    
page.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:06:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  addressed  the  FY  23  Operating  Governor                                                                    
Amended" spreadsheet (copy on file). He spoke to Item 1:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Administration (2)                                                                                             
     RDU: Centralized Admin. Services (13)                                                                                      
     Component: Retirement and Benefits (64)                                                                                    
     Description:  Increase   Capabilities  of   the  Social                                                                    
     Security   Program    to   Explore    Alaska   Teachers                                                                    
     Participation:  This funding  will allow  program staff                                                                    
     to  travel  around the  State  to  provide guidance  to                                                                    
     employers,  deliver  outreach  and education  to  those                                                                    
     interested  in  entering  Social  Security  /  Medicare                                                                    
     programs,  and  allow for  voting  at  the employer  or                                                                    
     possibly  the statewide  level  for  entrance into  the                                                                    
     Social Security system.                                                                                                    
     Other Funds: $75.0                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked for further explanation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  relayed that  currently Alaska  teachers did                                                                    
not pay into  Social Security nor the  alternative to social                                                                    
security, SBS.  The item was  funding within  the Department                                                                    
of Administration  Division of  retirement and  Benefits for                                                                    
outreach to  ensure that people  understood that  they could                                                                    
opt into the social security system.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:07:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked where the other funds were from.                                                                            
Mr.  Steininger  replied  that  the  funds  were  retirement                                                                    
system funds.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman clarified  that  the Teachers   Retirement                                                                    
System (TRS)  opted out of  Social Security many  years ago.                                                                    
It was  possible for  teachers to opt-in  to the  program if                                                                    
requested.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman noted  that the  committee  would hear  an                                                                    
update  on the  Public Employees'  Retirement System  (PERS)                                                                    
and TRS systems the following day.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:08:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 2:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Multiple                                                                                                       
     RDU: Multiple                                                                                                              
     Component: Multiple                                                                                                        
     Description: FY2023 LTC Salary and Benefit Adjustment:                                                                     
     FY2023 Labor, Trades, and Crafts LTC (LL)                                                                                  
     UGF: $1,593.6                                                                                                              
     DGF: $547.2                                                                                                                
     Other Funds: $2,649.3                                                                                                      
     Federal Funds: $243.1                                                                                                      
     Total: $5,033.2                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:08:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop asked Mr. Steininger  to go into more detail                                                                    
on  Item 2.  He asked  what the  total funds  were for,  and                                                                    
whether the proposal was for an annual increase or other.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  agreed to provide  the monetary  terms sheet                                                                    
that would  break down the cost-of-living  adjustment (COLA)                                                                    
and  other details.  He  noted that  the  negotiation was  a                                                                    
recent one.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  assumed that it  had not been  included in                                                                    
the original budget proposed by the governor.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  explained that  the administration  tried to                                                                    
incorporate any  union negotiations  that happened  prior to                                                                    
      th                                                                                                                        
Dec 15   in the original budget submission,  but often those                                                                    
negotiations went on  after that date. He  recalled that the                                                                    
statutory deadline was  day 45 or day 60  of the legislative                                                                    
session.                                                                                                                        
9:10:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 3:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                   
     RDU: Corp, Bus & Prof Licenses (117)                                                                                       
     Component: Corp, Bus & Prof Licensing (2360)                                                                               
     Description:    Amend     Revenue    Replacement    for                                                                    
     Professional  License   Fee  Freeze  for   FY2023:  The                                                                    
     professional licensing fee  replacement of $1.5 million                                                                    
     in  Gov was  an estimate  and can  be reduced  based on                                                                    
     more recent information.                                                                                                   
     UGF: ($400.0)                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:11:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson asked  about  the  impact and  investigative                                                                    
cost for license holders.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  stated  that  the  investigative  cost  was                                                                    
included  in  the  licensee  fees.  He  furthered  that  the                                                                    
administration  was trying  to  ensure it  did  not have  to                                                                    
raise the license costs by  funding some division activities                                                                    
with UGF funds.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson thought that  investigations were ongoing. He                                                                    
had understood that  the licensees were supposed  to pay the                                                                    
expenses and not the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger stated  that the  goal was  to have  a self-                                                                    
supporting system,  and the administration was  working with                                                                    
the division to achieve better  understanding as to what was                                                                    
driving up  the fees,  to avoid UGF  spend in  future years.                                                                    
He  mentioned  the  importance  of  investigations  for  the                                                                    
health  of  the  licensing  programs.  He  deferred  further                                                                    
explanation to the division.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:13:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 4:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                   
     RDU: Alaska Seafood Marketing Inst (126)                                                                                   
     Component: Alaska Seafood Marketing Inst (393)                                                                             
     Description: Correct Trade Promotion Funding from                                                                          
     CSLFRF: Correction to move from numbers to language                                                                        
     section.                                                                                                                   
     Federal Funds: ($7,000.0)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:13:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson asked about the intention of the $7 million.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  explained that there  had been a  $7 million                                                                    
in  American  Rescue  Plan  Act   (ARPA)  funding  that  was                                                                    
appropriated  to Alaska  Seafood Marketing  Institute (ASMI)                                                                    
in  the  FY  22  budget.  There  had  been  language  for  a                                                                    
technical  transaction that  would reverse  the item  out of                                                                    
the budget,  which had been  put in  the wrong place  in the                                                                    
budget system. He said that the  $7 million had been used by                                                                    
ASMI to support activities in seafood marketing.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:14:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 5:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Corrections                                                                                                    
     RDU: Population Management (550)                                                                                           
     Component: Impacts multiple Population Management                                                                          
     components in Sec. 1                                                                                                       
     Description: FY2023 Correctional Officers Salary                                                                           
     Adjustment: FY2023 Correctional Officers 2% COLA                                                                           
     UGF: $4,434.0                                                                                                              
     DGF: $25.9                                                                                                                 
     Federal Funds: $313.7                                                                                                      
     Total: $4,773.6                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:15:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 6:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Corrections (20)                                                                                               
     RDU: Population Management (550)                                                                                           
     Component: Pt. Mackenzie, Yukon-Kuskokwim, Ketchikan,                                                                      
     Fairbanks, Lemon Creek, Mat-Su                                                                                             
     Description: Add Institutional Support Positions and                                                                       
     Authority Due to Booking and Property Staffing:                                                                            
     Adjustment from FY2023 Gov to update description.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger noted  that the detail had  been provided due                                                                    
to questions that had arisen in the other body.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:15:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  asked for an  estimated cost savings  of the                                                                    
overtime if the positions were filled.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Steininger  relayed   that  the   cost  savings   were                                                                    
effectively  offset by  the salaries  of the  new hires.  He                                                                    
said here was not a net  cost savings to fill the positions.                                                                    
He noted  that the  savings could  be realized  in retention                                                                    
and addressing staff burnout.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson thought some of  the positions were for a new                                                                    
booking unit  that was already  being built before  the item                                                                    
was  approved. He  asked how  the administration  would find                                                                    
funding  for the  project  if  it was  not  approved by  the                                                                    
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  shared that  the item  was a  capital budget                                                                    
request and agreed that the  funding had yet to be approved.                                                                    
He  said   that  if  the   request  were  rejected   by  the                                                                    
legislature,  the  department  would lose  some  operational                                                                    
benefits  including  safety of  the  staff  and inmates.  He                                                                    
thought  that  the  Department of  Corrections  could  offer                                                                    
further insight.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  noted  that Senator  Wilson  oversaw  the                                                                    
subcommittee for DOC.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:18:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 7:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Education (5)                                                                                                  
     RDU: Education Support and Admin Services (677)                                                                            
     Component: Student and School Achievement                                                                                  
     Description: Correct Alaska Technical and Vocational                                                                       
     Education Program Funding: Additional TVEP funding is                                                                      
     available and required to be distributed per Statute.                                                                      
     DGF: $6.4                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:19:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 8:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Environ Conservation (18)                                                                                      
     RDU: Administration (202)                                                                                                  
     Component: Admin Services (635)                                                                                            
     Description: Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Trustee Council                                                                        
     Administration: DEC requires EVOSS authority to cover                                                                      
     the Department's cost to administer, including                                                                             
     accounting and procurement support. During Gov ADFG                                                                        
    cut the funding instead of transferring it to DEC.                                                                          
     Other Funds: $200.0                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:19:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 9:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Environ Conservation (18)                                                                                      
     RDU: DEC Bldgs Maint & Operations (531)                                                                                    
     Component: DEC Bldgs Maint & Operations (2783)                                                                             
     Description:  Operational  Costs of  the  Environmental                                                                    
     Health Laboratory:  A recent project to  reduce overall                                                                    
     energy costs is in the  final stages, but the projected                                                                    
     cost savings were based on  utility rates at a point in                                                                    
     time.                                                                                                                      
     Federal Funds: $125.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  why the  anticipated costs  had not                                                                    
been  included  in  the original  budget  request  from  the                                                                    
governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  explained that the additional  costs for the                                                                    
lab had  been a supplemental request  from FY 21 and  FY 22.                                                                    
Initially  it was  thought  to be  a  temporary increase  in                                                                    
costs, but  after the  departments supplemental  request had                                                                    
been investigated  it had become  clear that the  cost would                                                                    
be ongoing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:20:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  recalled that typically the  item was funded                                                                    
through  UGF. He  wondered what  had changed  to switch  the                                                                    
funding source to Federal Funds.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger explained that when  it became clear that the                                                                    
costs  would   be  ongoing,   the  administration   and  the                                                                    
department  had explored  various  funding  methods and  had                                                                    
decided  to   use  the  federal   indirect  rate   that  the                                                                    
department  collected from  various federal  programs, which                                                                    
was eligible to be used for these costs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:21:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 10:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Environ Conservation (18)                                                                                      
     RDU: Spill Prevention and Response (208)                                                                                   
     Component: Spill Prevention and Response (3094)                                                                            
     Description:  Replace  Authority   Unavailable  due  to                                                                    
     Alaska   Constitution   Article   IX   Section   17(d):                                                                    
     Adjustment  to ensure  full  program  funding post  CBR                                                                    
     sweep.                                                                                                                     
     UGF: 43.0                                                                                                                  
     DGF: (43.0)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson thought  that if  the  Spill Prevention  and                                                                    
Response (SPAR) funding had been  kept in the CBR, the funds                                                                    
would be exhausted  within 4 years. He  wondered whether the                                                                    
administration had  a plan  to raise  revenue to  offset the                                                                    
programs deficit in the out years.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  agreed to  speak briefly  on the  matter but                                                                    
ultimately  deferred to  the department.  He  said that  the                                                                    
department had  attempted to make reductions  to the program                                                                    
because prior  to the issues  related to the CBR  sweep, the                                                                    
program had been  operating at a deficit and  had drawn down                                                                    
savings.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson asked whether there  were any issues with not                                                                    
having the  funds in any  particular account and  having the                                                                    
fuel tax funds go directly into the UGF.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger thought  the  item was  one  of the  "odder"                                                                    
problems caused  by the  sweep. He  mentioned that  the SPAR                                                                    
funds sat  in a holding  account in  the General Fund  to be                                                                    
appropriated the  following year.  He said that  the holding                                                                    
account was swept.  He considered that the  structure of the                                                                    
flow  of money  should  be investigated.  He  said that  the                                                                    
governors  budget request had  focused on fixing the problem                                                                    
for this year and not for the long-term.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:25:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  asked whether  there was  any legal  risk or                                                                    
risk  of  litigation  for  the SPAR  account  or  any  other                                                                    
accounts that were part of the sweep.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger deferred to the Department of Law.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman interjected  litigation  was expected.  He                                                                    
shared that  there was an  audit currently in  progress, and                                                                    
he expected significant problems related to the audited                                                                         
financial statements.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:26:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop thought he had heard Mr. Steininger                                                                             
reference 5 cents per gallon that went to the SPAR fund.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger clarified that he would get the exact                                                                            
numbers for the committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   announced   that   once   the   audited                                                                    
information was available to the  public the committee would                                                                    
walk through  the accounts that  should have been  swept. He                                                                    
said time would be spent on the SPAR account.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:27:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 11:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Family & Community Services (26)                                                                               
     RDU: Children's Services (486)                                                                                             
     Component: Front Line Social Workers (3318)                                                                                
     Description:  Workforce Stabilization  Bonuses for  New                                                                    
     and Existing  Staff: Retention bonuses  are recommended                                                                    
     to  stabilize existing  staff,  entice  new staff,  and                                                                    
     provide  for a  cash  bonus at  the  completion of  the                                                                    
     first and second years of employment.                                                                                      
     UGF: $2,227.3                                                                                                              
     Federal Funds: $1,252.8                                                                                                    
     Total: $3,480.1                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:28:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 12:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Family & Community Services (26)                                                                               
     RDU: Children's Services (486)                                                                                             
     Component: Front Line Social Workers (3318)                                                                                
     Description:  Manage  Secondary  Traumatic  Stress  for                                                                    
     Child  Welfare  Workers Initiative:  Critical  incident                                                                    
     stress    debriefing    provides   supportive    crisis                                                                    
     intervention  following  powerful traumatic  events.  A                                                                    
     Mental Health Clinician will  build a critical incident                                                                    
     debriefing  program   aimed  to  reduce   distress  and                                                                    
     restore workforce performance.                                                                                             
     UGF: $169.7                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked why the item was not in the                                                                              
governor's original budget submission.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger explained that the  issue was being worked on                                                                    
during  the timeframe  that the  budget was  being finalized                                                                    
and  was not  ready in  time to  be included  in the  budget                                                                    
proposal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:30:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 13:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Family & Community Services (26)                                                                               
     RDU: Children's Services (486)                                                                                             
     Component: Front Line Social Workers (3318)                                                                                
     Description:    Add   Four    Long-Term   Non-Permanent                                                                    
     Protective Services Specialist  4: To ensure consistent                                                                    
     frontline supervision  needs are  met in all  Office of                                                                    
     Children's  Services locations,  a  new long-term  non-                                                                    
     permanent  supervisory  unit   will  ensure  consistent                                                                    
     supervision for new and tenured staff.                                                                                     
     UGF: $620.0                                                                                                                
     Federal Funds: $292.0                                                                                                      
     Total: $912.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:30:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 14:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Family & Community Services (26)                                                                               
     RDU: Children's Services (486) Front                                                                                       
     Component: Front Line Social Workers (3318)                                                                                
     Description:   Field  Training   Compensation  Program:                                                                    
     Tenured  Protective  Services   Specialist  staff  will                                                                    
     provide  support for  new case  workers for  the entire                                                                    
     first year of employment  by providing structured field                                                                    
     training in addition to carrying a caseload.                                                                               
     UGF: $375.8                                                                                                                
     Federal Funds: $211.4                                                                                                      
     Total: $587.2                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:30:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger reviewed Item 15:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Family & Community Services (26)                                                                               
     RDU: Children's Services (486)                                                                                             
     Component: Front Line Social Workers (3318)                                                                                
     Description:  Expand   Support  Positions   to  Broaden                                                                    
     Centralized  Services   and  Field   Support  Services:                                                                    
     Twenty-six  positions  will ensure  appropriate  Social                                                                    
     Services Associate  and administrative staff  ratios to                                                                    
     caseworkers, along with staff  to support and train co-                                                                    
    signers of the Alaska Tribal Child Welfare Compact.                                                                         
     UGF: $1,834.0                                                                                                              
     Federal Funds: $1,017.0                                                                                                    
     Total: $2,851.0                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson observed  that the  item also  supported the                                                                    
Alaska  Tribal  Child  Welfare  Compact.  He  asked  if  the                                                                    
request was in addition to  the $1 million already requested                                                                    
in the budget.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  responded  that  that  the  amount  in  the                                                                    
original  budget proposal  was the  grant that  went to  the                                                                    
Tribal providers. The supplemental  requested funds were for                                                                    
staff  at  OCS  to  increase the  number  of  child  welfare                                                                    
workers and  help make the compact  relationship successful.                                                                    
He deferred to OCS for further explanation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  considered Items 13 through  16 and wondered                                                                    
how  HB  151 [HB  151  passed  during the  2018  legislative                                                                    
session] had impacted the work of the division.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:32:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KIM GUAY, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF CHILDRENS SERVICES, ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via teleconference),  explained that  the bill  had allowed                                                                    
caseloads to be capped. She said  that the line item was for                                                                    
support  staff for  front line  workers, which  were leaving                                                                    
their posts  at unprecedented rates because  the benefits of                                                                    
HB 151 had yet to be  realized within OCS. She said that the                                                                    
funds would allow for front  line workers to spend more time                                                                    
working directly  with children  and families. She  spoke to                                                                    
the compact and  said that positions had  been identified to                                                                    
get the information to compacted Tribal partners.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson thought  HB  151 also  had  a retention  and                                                                    
recruitment   report   requirement   that   would   aid   in                                                                    
understanding  the reasons  behind  the  staff turnover.  He                                                                    
asked what the other positions  would support if only 4 were                                                                    
working with the Tribal compact.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Guay replied  that the positions would  be spread across                                                                    
the state to  help line staff coordinate  family contact, as                                                                    
well as helping  with paperwork. She said some  of the staff                                                                    
would provide  administrative support. She said  that HB 151                                                                    
capped cases for  workers but that people on  the job longer                                                                    
than 6 months carried extremely  high caseloads which led to                                                                    
employee burnout.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:35:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson understood that  the department had projected                                                                    
with the  passage of HB 151  the backlog would be  caught up                                                                    
with by August  2020. He wondered what  had happened between                                                                    
2020 and 2022 that stalled the work on the backlog.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Guay explained that when  the pandemic started there had                                                                    
been  a   massive  drop  in  OCS   calls  because  mandatory                                                                    
reporters  were not  interacting with  children. Since  that                                                                    
time the  call volume  had increased.  She shared  that were                                                                    
3,000  children in  care, and  she said  that children  were                                                                    
coming in with more complex needs  than had been seen in the                                                                    
past.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:38:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 16:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Family & Community Services (26)                                                                               
     RDU: Children's Services (486)                                                                                             
     Component: Family Preservation (3312)                                                                                      
     Description: Vocational Opportunities  for Older Youth:                                                                    
     The  Office  of  Children's Services  is  committed  to                                                                    
     supporting youth  aging out of  foster care  while they                                                                    
     participate in vocational  or career training programs.                                                                    
     Increased  financial support  for  accredited and  non-                                                                    
     accredited  programs as  well as  housing support  will                                                                    
     improve outcomes for Alaskan youth.                                                                                        
     UGF: $100.0                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop  suggested that the department  reach out to                                                                    
the  Department  of  Labor   and  Workforce  Development  to                                                                    
leverage funds with federal funds for vocational education.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:38:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 17:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Family & Community Services (26)                                                                               
     RDU: Children's Services (486)                                                                                             
     Component: Family Preservation (3312)                                                                                      
     Description:  Alaska  Impact  Alliance  -  Support  and                                                                    
     Evidenced Based Program  Development: The Alaska Impact                                                                    
     Alliance   promotes  community-based   action  planning                                                                    
     through   the    development   of    local   prevention                                                                    
     programming to include                                                                                                     
     evidence  based,   culturally  relevant   programs  and                                                                    
     services  with  an  emphasis   on  support  to  diverse                                                                    
     populations.  The  alliance  will continue  efforts  to                                                                    
     engage  communities  in  developing  community-specific                                                                    
     prevention   programming   aimed  at   reducing   child                                                                    
     maltreatment.                                                                                                              
     UGF: $200.0                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:39:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 18:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Department: Family & Community Services (26)                                                                                    
RDU: Children's Services (486)                                                                                                  
Component: Foster Care Special Need (3317)                                                                                      
Description: Youth with Complex Trauma Placement Support:                                                                       
Foster care placements for complex  youth is often disrupted                                                                    
if substantial financial support is  not in place to address                                                                    
unique high needs of youth  in care. This funding allows for                                                                    
appropriate  compensation for  foster care  providers caring                                                                    
for complex  youth necessary to  secure placements  and keep                                                                    
children in Alaska whenever possible.                                                                                           
UGF: $700.0                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  why  the   item  was  not  in  the                                                                    
governor's original budget submission.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  replied that  the line item  was part  of an                                                                    
overall package to address needs  at OCS and took additional                                                                    
time to craft.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:40:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 19:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Family & Community Services (26)                                                                               
     RDU: Children's Services (486)                                                                                             
     Component: Foster Care Special Need (3317)                                                                                 
     Description: Support  for Foster  Youth Age  18-21: The                                                                    
     Office   of  Children's   Services   is  committed   to                                                                    
     supporting  successful  transition into  adulthood  and                                                                    
     reducing financial  barriers for youth ages  18-21 that                                                                    
     are currently  in legal custody  or have  exited foster                                                                    
     care  at age  18. These  youth will  be eligible  for a                                                                    
     capped  annual  amount  for   needs  such  as  housing,                                                                    
     household  goods,  employment support,  transportation,                                                                    
     utilities,  financial  management or  other  identified                                                                    
     needs                                                                                                                      
     UGF: $1,000.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   asked  whether   the  change   would  be                                                                    
permanent.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger answered "yes."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:40:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 20:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Family & Community Services (26)                                                                               
     RDU: Departmental Support Services (715)                                                                                   
     Component: Administrative Services (3305)                                                                                  
     Description: Add  Funding for  New Dept Tech  Officer 2                                                                    
     (02-#179)  and Admin  Services  Director (01-#003)  for                                                                    
     Family and Community  Services: Necessary positions for                                                                    
     DHSS EO                                                                                                                    
     UGF: $234.4                                                                                                                
     Federal Funds: $156.3                                                                                                      
     Total: $390.7                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski recalled  that the  previous year  the                                                                    
committee had  heard from  the Department  of Law  (LAW) and                                                                    
the  Division  of  Legislative  Legal  that  the  order  was                                                                    
unconstitutional because  it made substantive  legal changes                                                                    
through an executive order  rather than through legislation.                                                                    
He  thought   the  same  issues  continued   under  the  new                                                                    
executive  order  and  wondered  why the  governor  had  not                                                                    
submitted legislation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  did not believe  that it was the  opinion of                                                                    
LAW  that  the  executive  order  was  unconstitutional.  He                                                                    
offered to provide a more robust response on the issue.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:42:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 21:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Fish and Game (11)                                                                                             
     RDU: Subsistence Research & Monitoring (270)                                                                               
     Component: Subsistence Research (2625)                                                                                     
     Description:   Subsistence   Resources  Research:   The                                                                    
     federal funding  will partially support  research staff                                                                    
     in  the  Northern  and  Southern  Region.  Importantly,                                                                    
     these research projects include  attention to Yukon and                                                                    
     Kuskokwim  River Chinook  and  chum salmon  populations                                                                    
     and  their  importance  to subsistence.  Projects  also                                                                    
     include research  on Arctic  fisheries and  provide the                                                                    
     foundation  for comprehensive  subsistence survey  work                                                                    
     in Southeast, Southcentral, and Aleutian communities.                                                                      
     Federal Funds: $ 550.0                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman thought  that more needed to be  done to put                                                                    
salmon  in streams,  rather than  using  outside sources  to                                                                    
provide temporary a supply of  fish. He stressed that salmon                                                                    
was  an extremely  important  staple to  the  people of  the                                                                    
area.  He  did  not  think   that  relying  on  the  federal                                                                    
government to conduct a study  was the solution to the needs                                                                    
of  the people  of the  region. He  believed that  this food                                                                    
security issue needed more attention.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman continued his remarks.  He thought while the                                                                    
item was  well intentioned,  it fell far  short of  what the                                                                    
state should do  for the people of the state.  He asked that                                                                    
the  administration revisit  the issue  and come  up with  a                                                                    
more meaningful solution. He  hoped the administration could                                                                    
craft  a proactive  request that  showed the  people of  the                                                                    
state that the issue of important.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:46:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  commented  that  people  in  rural  Alaska                                                                    
wanted to  provide for  themselves and  hope that  the issue                                                                    
would be taken seriously.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:47:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson agreed  with  Senator  Hoffman's remarks.  He                                                                    
remarked  that  another study  was  not  needed, and  people                                                                    
wanted  to see  solutions  to the  problem  of lower  salmon                                                                    
returns. He thought  it was evident that  Department of Fish                                                                    
and Game  (DF&G) had  failed the  people that  depended upon                                                                    
salmon  for  life. He  thought  hatcheries  were an  obvious                                                                    
solution rather than another study.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:48:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop   concurred  with  Senator   Hoffman's  and                                                                    
Senator Olson's comments. He  emphasized that Chinook salmon                                                                    
were important  and noted  that the  Chum salmon  return had                                                                    
been almost non-existent.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:49:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 22:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Health (6)                                                                                                     
     RDU: Behavioral Health                                                                                                     
    Component: BH Treatment and Recovery Grants (3099)                                                                          
     Description:  MH Trust:  Crisis Now  Continuum of  Care                                                                    
     Grants: Move this program from  BH Prevention and Early                                                                    
     Intervention Grants to  Behavioral Health Treatment and                                                                    
     Recovery Grants.                                                                                                           
     UGF: $900.0                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 23:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Health (6)                                                                                                     
     RDU: Behavioral Health (483)                                                                                               
    Component: Behavioral Health Administration (2665)                                                                          
     Description:  Expand  Master   of  Social  Work  Degree                                                                    
     Program:                                                                                                                   
     The Department of Health will  contribute to a two-year                                                                    
     effort  to  support  expansion  of  the  University  of                                                                    
     Alaska's Master  of Social Work  program from 35  to 85                                                                    
     students per year, including licensure.                                                                                    
     UGF: $ 200.0                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson recalled  that a  few  years previously  the                                                                    
University had decreased the program.  He wondered why there                                                                    
had been a decrease and then an increase.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought the University could  speak to the                                                                    
matter later.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger deferred the rationale  to the University. He                                                                    
noted that  UA had a  bit different budget process  by which                                                                    
funding  decisions were  made. He  cited that  the DHSS  was                                                                    
working with outside parties to meet the specific needs of                                                                      
beneficiaries.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman reminded that the supplemental request                                                                         
from the governor might not be included in the final                                                                            
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:52:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 24:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Health (6)                                                                                                     
     RDU: Behavioral Health                                                                                                     
    Component: Behavioral Health Administration (2665)                                                                          
     Description:  MH Trust:  Crisis Now  Continuum of  Care                                                                    
     Grants: Move this program from  BH Prevention and Early                                                                    
     Intervention Grants to  Behavioral Health Treatment and                                                                    
     Recovery Grants.                                                                                                           
     UGF: ($900.0)                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 25:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Health (6)                                                                                                     
     RDU: Public Health (502)                                                                                                   
     Component:  Chronic   Disease  Prevention   and  Health                                                                    
     Promotion (2818)                                                                                                           
     Description:  MH  Trust:  Open  Beds: Open  beds  is  a                                                                    
     secure  cloud-based  platform that  provides  real-time                                                                    
     treatment   facility   availability,  two-way   digital                                                                    
     provider  communication, data  analytics, and  clinical                                                                    
     decision support.                                                                                                          
     Other Funds: $ 285.0                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 26:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Labor & Workforce (7)                                                                                          
     RDU: Commissioner and Admin Services                                                                                       
     Component: Workforce Investment Board                                                                                      
     Description:  Correct Alaska  Technical and  Vocational                                                                    
     Education Program  Funding: Additional TVEP  funding is                                                                    
     available and required to be distributed per Statute.                                                                      
     DGF: $ 54.7                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson asked about Item 25, and whether the DHSS                                                                        
had the information on their website currently.                                                                                 
Mr.  Steininger  stated   that  the  item  had   come  as  a                                                                    
recommendation from  AMHTA. He  thought the  commissioner of                                                                    
DHSS could speak to the item.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:53:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN  ROBB, ASSISTANT  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH                                                                    
AND SOCIAL  SERVICES (via teleconference), relayed  that the                                                                    
program provided  a real-time  dashboard of  availability on                                                                    
the  website. She  shared  that the  line  item provided  an                                                                    
additional tool in the toolbox.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Wilson  asked   whether  the   department  already                                                                    
required the  open beds  numbers to be  posted daily  on the                                                                    
dashboard.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Robb stated  that the dashboard had  existed for several                                                                    
years, and the funds would maintain availability.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:54:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 27:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Labor & Workforce (7)                                                                                          
     RDU: Commissioner and Admin Services                                                                                       
     Component: Workforce Investment Board                                                                                      
     Description: Additional federal  Authority for Recently                                                                    
     Acquired  Federal   Grants:  AWIB  has   recently  been                                                                    
     awarded   two    new   federal   grants:    The   State                                                                    
     Apprenticeship   Expansion,  Equity,   and  Innovations                                                                    
     (SAEEI)  award  for  $3,991.5  over  4  years  and  the                                                                    
     Community  Health Workers  for  Public Health  Response                                                                    
     and Resilient award for $671.3 per year.                                                                                   
     Federal Funds: $ 1,669.2                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop  asked how  many  years  the expansion  was                                                                    
expected to take.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger agreed  to get  back to  the committee  with                                                                    
more information.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop noted that there  was a staffing shortage in                                                                    
the healthcare industry.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:56:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 28:                                                                                                
     Department: Labor & Workforce (7)                                                                                          
     RDU: AVTEC (578)                                                                                                           
     Component: AVTEC (2686)                                                                                                    
     Description:  Correct Alaska  Technical and  Vocational                                                                    
     Education Program  Funding: Additional TVEP  funding is                                                                    
     available and required to be distributed per Statute.                                                                      
     DGF: $ 27.3                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 29:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Natural Resources (10)                                                                                         
     RDU: Fire Land and Water Resources (602)                                                                                   
    Component: Geological & Geophysical Surveys (1031)                                                                          
     Description: Laying  the Foundation for  Alaska's Power                                                                    
     Diversification: This  increment will form the  core of                                                                    
     a  renewable  energy  program within  the  Division  of                                                                    
     Geological  & Geophysical  Surveys to  collect baseline                                                                    
     data  critical  for   geothermal,  hydro-electric  (in-                                                                    
     river,  tidal, and  wave),  and  wind power  generating                                                                    
     potential throughout Alaska.                                                                                               
     UGF: $ 262.0                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman recalled  a  presentation on  micro-nuclear                                                                    
power that was  given in the Community  and Regional Affairs                                                                    
Committee. He  thought the state  should continue  to pursue                                                                    
the  success of  micro-nuclear  power. He  recalled that  11                                                                    
years  previously  the legislature  had  funded  a study  on                                                                    
micro-nuclear,  at which  the  presenters  relayed that  the                                                                    
state was  on the  cusp of  a big  change that  would reduce                                                                    
energy costs by possibly as much as 90 percent.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman continued his remarks.  He thought the state                                                                    
could attempt  its own demonstration project.  He referenced                                                                    
United States Senator Lisa Murkowski,  who had mentioned the                                                                    
topic in  a joint session  to the legislature.  He suggested                                                                    
that the technology  would be a big game-changer  in a state                                                                    
with some  of the  highest energy costs  in the  nation, and                                                                    
lowest incomes in  the nation. He thought  that more funding                                                                    
should  be added  to  ensure real  systemic  changes in  the                                                                    
improvement  of the  quality  of life  for  people in  rural                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:00:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop  asked whether  the  funds  were in  direct                                                                    
response to a plan the governor had put forward.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger said that all  the governors  plans were tied                                                                    
together. He commented that Senator  Hoffman would see later                                                                    
in  amendments there  was  significant  investment with  the                                                                    
University for micro-nuclear power.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman noted the time.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:01:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 30:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Natural Resources (10)                                                                                         
     RDU: Agriculture (603)                                                                                                     
     Component: Agricultural Development (455)                                                                                  
     Description: Sponsor Future Farmers of America: Amend                                                                      
     allocation between line numbers                                                                                            
     UGF: ($180.0)                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger continued to Item 31:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Natural Resources (10)                                                                                         
     RDU: Agriculture (603)                                                                                                     
     Component: Agricultural Development (455)                                                                                  
     Description: Amended Sponsor Future Farmers of                                                                             
     America: Amend allocation between line numbers and add                                                                     
     1 PCN.                                                                                                                     
     UGF: $180.0                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked for  an estimation  of how  many new                                                                    
employees   were   being   requested   in   total   by   the                                                                    
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  stated that the amendment  package signified                                                                    
30 full-time and 4 non-permanent employees.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  how many  were  requested  in  the                                                                    
previously submitted budget proposal.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger responded  that  he could  get  back to  the                                                                    
committee with the information.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:03:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson noted  that the  University  was ending  its                                                                    
relationship with Future Farmers  of America (FFA) and asked                                                                    
whether the  grant would be  transferred to the  Division of                                                                    
Agriculture.                                                                                                                    
Mr. Steininger  replied that the  change in the  Division of                                                                    
Agriculture  was in  response to  the University  ending its                                                                    
partnership with  FFA. The exact nature  of the relationship                                                                    
would change since it was under new management.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson asked whether there  would be an amendment to                                                                    
move  the  grant from  the  University  to the  Division  of                                                                    
Agriculture.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  noted that  the removal of  the grant  was a                                                                    
result of the  budget reductions to the  University over the                                                                    
last several years  and the money associated  with the grant                                                                    
had already been cut.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:04:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 32:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Public Safety                                                                                                  
     RDU: Alaska State Troopers                                                                                                 
     Component: AST Detachments                                                                                                 
     Description:  Add Full  Funding for  New FY2021  Filled                                                                    
     Positions:  Thirty-six  new  positions  were  added  to                                                                    
     Alaska State Troopers  in FY21 but funded  at 75%. This                                                                    
     increment is needed to fully  fund 16 filled positions.                                                                    
     $460.2 is in FY23 Governor new total is $631.                                                                              
     UGF: $170.8                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 33:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Public Safety                                                                                                  
     RDU: Alaska State Troopers                                                                                                 
     Component: AST Detachments                                                                                                 
     Description: Add  Funding to Support  Domestic Violence                                                                    
     and Sexual  Assault &  Missing and  Murdered Indigenous                                                                    
     Persons:                                                                                                                   
     Description change only.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 34:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Public Safety (12)                                                                                             
     RDU: Alaska State Troopers (160)                                                                                           
     Component: Alaska Bureau of Investigation (2744)                                                                           
     Description:  Fund Change  for State  Homeland Security                                                                    
     Program Award: Fund change from  FY23 Gov because it is                                                                    
     for a capital project. (I/A to CIP)                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 35:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Public Safety                                                                                                  
     RDU: Alaska State Troopers                                                                                                 
     Component:  Alaska Wildlife  Troopers Aircraft  Section                                                                    
     (492)                                                                                                                      
     Description:  Add Positions  to  Increase Staffing  and                                                                    
     Operational  Capacity  within   the  Aircraft  Section:                                                                    
     Adjustment from FY2023 Gov to update description.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 36:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Revenue (4)                                                                                                    
     RDU: Agency Unallocated (627)                                                                                              
     Component: Unallocated Rates Adjustment (3370)                                                                             
     Description:  Reverse  FY2023   Office  of  Information                                                                    
     Technology Mainframe  Change: Correct a  rate reduction                                                                    
     that was made in both FY22 and FY23 Gov.                                                                                   
     UGF: $ 259.9                                                                                                               
     DGF: $ 1.7                                                                                                                 
     Federal Funds: $ 590.9                                                                                                     
     Total: $852.5                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:06:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  brought up that the  United States Attorney                                                                    
General  had   expressed  outrage  with  the   lack  of  law                                                                    
enforcement  and  staffing  support   in  rural  Alaska.  He                                                                    
appreciated  the  governor  putting  in  additional  support                                                                    
positions  in rural  Alaska, and  he hoped  the focus  would                                                                    
continue.  He   considered  that  the  overall   budget  the                                                                    
governor  had  presented  was an  overall  step  forward  to                                                                    
address the lack of enforcement in rural Alaska.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:07:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Items 37 - 42:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Transportation (25)                                                                                            
     RDU: Highways, Aviation and Facilities (408)                                                                               
     Component: Central Highways and Aviation (564)                                                                             
     Description:  Maintenance  and Operations  Funding  for                                                                    
     Silvertip  Maintenance Station:  This FY22  item should                                                                    
     have  been added  in FY23  as well  to continue  to use                                                                    
     federal relief to cover these costs.                                                                                       
     Federal Funds: $620.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Transportation (25)                                                                                            
     RDU: Highways, Aviation and Facilities (408)                                                                               
     Component: Central Highways and Aviation (564)                                                                             
     Description:  FY2023 Labor,  Trades, and  Crafts Salary                                                                    
     and  Benefit  Adjustments:  FY2023 Labor,  Trades,  and                                                                    
     Crafts 3.25% COLA.                                                                                                         
     UGF: $263.0                                                                                                                
     Federal Funds: ($263.0)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Transportation (25)                                                                                            
     RDU: Highways, Aviation and Facilities (408)                                                                               
     Component: Northern Highways & Aviation (2068)                                                                             
     Description: Funding  for Dalton District  Shift Change                                                                    
     - Two  Weeks On/Two  Weeks Off:  This FY22  item should                                                                    
     have  been added  in FY23  as well  to continue  to use                                                                    
     federal relief to cover these costs.                                                                                       
     Federal Funds: $1,298.6                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Transportation (25)                                                                                            
     RDU: Highways, Aviation and Facilities (408)                                                                               
     Component: Northern Highways & Aviation (2068)                                                                             
     Description:  Maintenance  and Operations  Funding  for                                                                    
     Chitina and Birch Lake  Maintenance Stations: This FY22                                                                    
     item  should  have  been  added  in  FY23  as  well  to                                                                    
   continue to use federal relief to cover these costs.                                                                         
     Federal Funds: $794.6                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Transportation (25)                                                                                            
     Northern Highways                                                                                                          
     & Aviation (2068)                                                                                                          
     RDU: Highways, Aviation and Facilities (408)                                                                               
     Component: Northern Highways & Aviation (2068)                                                                             
     Description:  FY2023 Labor,  Trades, and  Crafts Salary                                                                    
     and  Benefit  Adjustments:  FY2023 Labor,  Trades,  and                                                                    
     Crafts 3.25% COLA.                                                                                                         
     UGF: $ 494.8                                                                                                               
     Federal Funds: ($494.8)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Transportation (25)                                                                                            
     RDU: Highways, Aviation and Facilities (408)                                                                               
     Component: Southcoast Highways and Aviation (603)                                                                          
     Description:  FY2023 Labor,  Trades, and  Crafts Salary                                                                    
     and  Benefit  Adjustments:  FY2023 Labor,  Trades,  and                                                                    
     Crafts 3.25% COLA.                                                                                                         
     UGF: $56.9                                                                                                                 
     Federal Funds: ($56.9)                                                                                                     
Co-Chair  Bishop  commented  that the  maintenance  stations                                                                    
were important to  his district. He whether  the state would                                                                    
use UGF  or federal funds  in the future. He  referenced the                                                                    
Dalton Highway shift change and  the struggle for Department                                                                    
of  Transportation and  Public Facilities  (DOT&PF) to  fill                                                                    
unfilled positions.  He expressed staffing concerns  and pay                                                                    
parity within the department.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:09:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 43:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Transportation (25)                                                                                            
     RDU: Agency Unallocated (724)                                                                                              
     Component: Unallocated Rates Adjustment (3371)                                                                             
     Description: Correct FY2023 Rate Changes Fund Source:                                                                      
     Correct rate adjustment fund source from DGF to Other                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 44:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Department: University of Alaska (45)                                                                                      
     RDU: Budget Reductions/Additions (233)                                                                                     
     Component: Systemwide Reduction/Additions (1296)                                                                           
     Description: Correct Alaska Technical and Vocational                                                                       
     Education Program Funding: Additional TVEP funding is                                                                      
     available and required to be distributed per Statute.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger noted Item 45:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Judiciary                                                                                                      
     RDU: Judiciary Unallocated                                                                                                 
     Component: Unallocated Rates Adjustment                                                                                    
     Description: Replace Rate Adjustment Unrealizable Fund                                                                     
     Sources: Courts request a change on rate adjustments                                                                       
     non-UGF fund sources to UGF.                                                                                               
     UGF: $1.1                                                                                                                  
     DGF: ($0.2)                                                                                                                
     Other Funds: ($0.6)                                                                                                        
     Federal Funds: ($0.3)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:10:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger noted Item 46:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                   
     RDU: Alaska Seafood Marketing Inst (126)                                                                                   
     Component: Alaska Seafood Marketing Inst (393)                                                                             
     Description:  Correct  Trade   Promotion  Funding  from                                                                    
     CSLFRF:  Correction to  move from  numbers to  language                                                                    
     section.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Steininger    addressed   the    spreadsheet   "FY2022                                                                    
Supplemental Governor Amended" (copy on file).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  spoke to the  Operating Budget items  on the                                                                    
chart.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 7:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                   
     RDU: Alaska Seafood Marketing Inst                                                                                         
     Component: Alaska Seafood Marketing Inst                                                                                   
     Description:  Extend  FY2022  Trade  Promotion  Funding                                                                    
     Through  FY2024   as  Multi-Year   Appropriation:  This                                                                    
     funding  (ARPA-CSLFRF)  is available  through  December                                                                    
     31, 2024.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 8:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Special Appropriations                                                                                         
     RDU: Judgments, Claims Settlements (615)                                                                                   
     Component: Judgments, Claims Settlements (3008)                                                                            
     Description: FY2022 Judgments, Settlements, and Claims                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT  OF   LAW.  (a)  The  sum   of  $876,601  is                                                                    
     appropriated from  the general  fund to  the Department                                                                    
     of  Law,  civil  division,  deputy  attorney  general's                                                                    
     office,  for  the  purpose   of  paying  judgments  and                                                                    
     settlements  against the  state on  or before  June 30,                                                                    
     2022.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked for more detail in Item 8.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  explained that there  were two  judgments or                                                                    
settlements included  in the original Supplemental  Budget -                                                                    
Recall Dunleavy  v. the  Division of  Elections and  ACLU v.                                                                    
Dunleavy. The  new settlements  were Arctic  Village Council                                                                    
v. Meyer, Lanford  v. Dunleavy, Forrer v. SOA,  and John Doe                                                                    
v. SOA.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  whether there  were dollar  amounts                                                                    
associated with each case.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger stated  that the  Arctic Village  Council v.                                                                    
Meyer totaled  approximately $200,000 between  three payees.                                                                    
Blandford   v.  Dunleavy   involved  two   payees  receiving                                                                    
$220,000  and  $275,000. He  furthered  that  Forrer v.  SOA                                                                    
totaled  $157,000  and  the  John Doe  case  was  just  over                                                                    
$40,000.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:13:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski  referenced  the  Blandford  case.  He                                                                    
asked whether  the court had  found the state liable,  or if                                                                    
the  court had  found  Governor Dunleavy  and  his chief  of                                                                    
staff personally liable.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger referenced a memo  from the Department of Law                                                                    
(copy on  file) dated  February 16,  2022. The  memo offered                                                                    
more specific detail on the settlement.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski understood that  the state had not been                                                                    
found liable  by the  court. He  recalled that  the governor                                                                    
and his chief  of staff had been found liable  in a personal                                                                    
capacity, which meant the state held no liability.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger suggested that  Senator Wielechowski read the                                                                    
memo  from  the  Department  of Law.  He  relayed  that  the                                                                    
appropriation  was   for  the  settlement  and   was  not  a                                                                    
judgement from the court.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  thought  the  matter  was  a  subject  of                                                                    
interest to  the committee and  other legislators.  He asked                                                                    
Mr.  Steininger  not  to  answer  questions  that  made  him                                                                    
uncomfortable. He relayed that  LAW had been unavailable for                                                                    
this hearing  but would be  before the committee  at another                                                                    
time.  He recognized  that  the issue  was  a complex  legal                                                                    
matter, and  that Mr. Steininger  did not represent  LAW. He                                                                    
thought  the  Department of  Law  was  paying attention  and                                                                    
could be  made aware of member's  questions before appearing                                                                    
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:17:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  recognized that LAW should  answer the                                                                    
questions. He  asked why the department  was paying hundreds                                                                    
of thousands  of dollars for  a matter  in which it  was not                                                                    
liable.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:17:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson suggested that the line item be deleted until                                                                     
there was significant justification from LAW.                                                                                   
Co-Chair Stedman assured the committee that the issue would                                                                     
be under discussion later.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman handed the gavel to Co-Chair Bishop.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:18:42 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:21:01 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop relayed that the committee would consider                                                                       
the Capital Budget items in the FY 22 Supplemental Budget                                                                       
Amendments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger relayed that Item 1 through Item 4 signified                                                                     
recommendations of items from the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                   
     RDU:                                                                                                                       
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description: Alaska SeaLife  Center Facilities Project:                                                                    
     $2.5  million   of  settlement  funds   for  facilities                                                                    
     replacement for the Alaska SeaLife  Center (ASLC) for a                                                                    
     facilities project. Funded with EVOS Fund.                                                                                 
     Other Funds: $2,500.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                   
     RDU:                                                                                                                       
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description: Chugach  Region Archaeological Repository:                                                                    
     $6.28  million  of   settlement  funds  for  facilities                                                                    
     replacement  for  the   Chugach  Region  Archaeological                                                                    
     Repository and Museum. EVOS Fund.                                                                                          
     Other Funds: $6,277.7                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                   
     RDU:                                                                                                                       
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description:    Alutiiq    Museum   &    Archaeological                                                                    
     Repository:                                                                                                                
     $7.3  million  of  settlement funds  for  purchase  and                                                                    
     renovation  of the  Aluutiq  Museum and  Archaeological                                                                    
     Repository (AMAR). EVOS Fund.                                                                                              
     Other Funds: $7,339.5                                                                                                      
     Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                   
     RDU:                                                                                                                       
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description:  Prince  William  Sound Science  Center  &                                                                    
     Technology  Institute   Facilities  Replacement:  $5.95                                                                    
     million of settlement  funds for facilities replacement                                                                    
     for  the   Prince  William   Sound  Science   Center  &                                                                    
     Technology Institute (PWSSC). EVOS Fund.                                                                                   
     Other Funds: $5,950.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:22:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 5:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Corrections (20)                                                                                               
     RDU:                                                                                                                       
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description:  Hiland   Mountain  Intake  Administration                                                                    
     Project: Savings  if project  is managed by  DOC rather                                                                    
     than DOT.                                                                                                                  
     UGF: ($1,300.0)                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 6:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Corrections (20)                                                                                               
     RDU:                                                                                                                       
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description:   Yukon   Kuskokwim  Correctional   Center                                                                    
     Recreational  Area Renovations:  Savings if  project is                                                                    
     managed by DOC rather than DOT.                                                                                            
     UGF: ($820.0)                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson asked whether the project was currently                                                                          
under construction.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  detailed that  currently the  department was                                                                    
in the planning stages with  the intent to start the project                                                                    
as quickly as  possible. He said that  full construction had                                                                    
not yet begun.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:24:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed a spreadsheet entitled "FY 2023                                                                        
Capital Governor Amended" (copy on file). He spoke to Item                                                                      
1:                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                        
Component: Capital                                                                                                              
Description:  Kodiak  Fire  Station:  Addition  to  GO  Bond                                                                    
Package.                                                                                                                        
Other Funds: $15,000.0                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 2:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                        
Component: Capital                                                                                                              
Description: Nenana Fire Hall Update description.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 3:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                        
Component: Capital                                                                                                              
Description:   Kenai  River   Bluff  Stabilization:   Update                                                                    
description.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 4:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                        
Component: Capital                                                                                                              
Description:  Seward  Freight  Dock Expansion  and  Corridor                                                                    
Improvements: Update description.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  appreciated the  assistance to  Kodiak and                                                                    
Nenana fire halls. He related  that he was not supportive of                                                                    
the GO bond package but  was supportive of the including the                                                                    
projects  in  the  normal Capital  Budget  cycle.  He  asked                                                                    
whether it  was safe to  assume that the  administration was                                                                    
looking  positively towards  potential inclusion  of funding                                                                    
for  fire hall  and safety  structures  maintenance  and new                                                                    
construction.   He  thought   the  Kodiak   project  was   a                                                                    
replacement due  to earthquake damage.  He commented  on the                                                                    
dilapidated nature of fire houses around the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop echoed Co-Chair Stedman's comments.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  hoped for  an  opinion  from OMB  on  the                                                                    
matter.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:28:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger commented  that one  aspect of  the GO  bond                                                                    
package was that it needed to  go to voters for approval. He                                                                    
said that the administration would  adjust the package as it                                                                    
moved  thorough  the  legislative  process  and  the  public                                                                    
weighed in on what should be included.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman emphasized  that he did not  support a bond                                                                    
package. He thought  the state was able  to offer assistance                                                                    
around the  state because of some  unanticipated revenue. He                                                                    
reiterated  his support  of  putting the  two  items in  the                                                                    
regular Capital Budget.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger thought  the broader  discussion  of how  to                                                                    
fund the  projects was an  important one. He  commented that                                                                    
the  administration believed  that bonding  now provided  an                                                                    
opportunity  to take  advantage  of low  interest rates  and                                                                    
saving the  surplus funds while  paying down  debt overtime.                                                                    
He stressed  that the  administration believed  that bonding                                                                    
was  the  best way  to  fund  the  projects but  what  those                                                                    
projects were that should be  included in the package should                                                                    
be determined through the legislative process.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:31:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  reminded  that the  legislature  was  the                                                                    
appropriator, and its role was  to define the Capital Budget                                                                    
structure. He urged caution on the issuance of debt.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:33:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 1:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Commerce (8)                                                                                                   
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description:  Alaska  Mariculture Alliance     Economic                                                                    
     Recovery  Mariculture Incentive  Grant Program    SCOPE                                                                    
     CHANGE:  This  appropriation  provides  a  $25  million                                                                    
     grant to the Alaska  Mariculture Alliance (AMA) for the                                                                    
     purpose of  establishing and operating a  grant program                                                                    
     for   the   mariculture   industry.   The   Mariculture                                                                    
     Revolving Loan  Fund (MRLF) was established  to provide                                                                    
     capital,   but  additional   financial  assistance   is                                                                    
     necessary to  support the industry during  its infancy.                                                                    
     Grants made  through this appropriation will  assist in                                                                    
     the  establishment of  new  mariculture businesses  and                                                                    
     the expansion of existing farms.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 5:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: w Environ Conservation (18)                                                                                    
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description:  Alaska Enhanced  Air Quality  Monitoring:                                                                    
     The  Department  of   Environmental  Conservation  will                                                                    
     implement  a  three-year  air monitoring  project  that                                                                    
     expands the Department's  existing "AQmesh" air quality                                                                    
     sensor  network   to  fifteen   additional  communities                                                                    
     across  Alaska.  The  AQmesh  network  is  intended  to                                                                    
     provide  baseline  air  quality   data  for  areas  not                                                                    
     covered by the State's regulatory monitoring network.                                                                      
     Federal Funds: $650.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke to Item 6:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Health (6)                                                                                                     
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description:     MH:    Deferred     Maintenance    and                                                                    
     Accessibility Improvements:  Move capital  project from                                                                    
     DFCS to DOH.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 8:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Natural Resources (10)                                                                                         
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description: Cook Inlet  Petroleum Potential Lower Cook                                                                    
     Inlet  basin and  the  Alaska Peninsula-North  Aleutian                                                                    
     basin  have significant  petroleum potential,  but they                                                                    
     have  been lightly  explored  and  critical aspects  of                                                                    
     their  geology   remain  poorly  known.  Much   of  the                                                                    
     existing   exploration  data   in   these  basins   are                                                                    
     proprietary. This  request will help fund  an effort to                                                                    
     increase the  amount of publicly available  data on the                                                                    
     petroleum potential of these basins.                                                                                       
     UGF: $1,200.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman thought  it was a good idea to  keep an eye                                                                    
on  Cook Inlet,  which  he thought  did  not receive  enough                                                                    
attention  compared to  Prudhoe  Bay.  He expressed  concern                                                                    
that  too  much  concentration  on  renewable  energy  could                                                                    
disadvantage  Cook  Inlet,  where  the  state  had  invested                                                                    
hundreds of millions of dollars.  He thought natural gas was                                                                    
substantially more environmentally  friendly that many other                                                                    
energy sources.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:37:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski asked whether  the information that the                                                                    
department sought with the proposed funds already existed.                                                                      
Co-Chair  Bishop  noted  there  was  a  petroleum  geologist                                                                    
online for questions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:38:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAVID LEPAIN,  PETROLEUM GEOLOGIST,  DIV. OF  GEOLOGICAL AND                                                                    
GEOPHYSICAL  SURVEYS, DEPARTMENT  OF NATURAL  RESOURCES (via                                                                    
teleconference), thought  that some of the  data existed but                                                                    
was likely  lost. He said  that the major players  active in                                                                    
the  basin over  the last  40 years  had pulled  out of  the                                                                    
basin  and some  of those  companies no  longer existed.  He                                                                    
lamented that much of the  institutional knowledge was gone.                                                                    
He  asserted that  the data  that did  exists from  previous                                                                    
studies  was dated.  The department  proposed to  gather new                                                                    
highly relevant data to make  available to the public domain                                                                    
and attract investment.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski knew  there had  been huge  production                                                                    
and  exploration incentives.  He  wondered whether  previous                                                                    
studies had been funded by the state.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  LePain  recounted  that  the  department  had  received                                                                    
capital improvement projects  in the past and  had used that                                                                    
money to  conduct geological investigations in  the area. He                                                                    
pointed out  that because  of the  work investment  had been                                                                    
attracted to the basin. He  commented that by generating new                                                                    
data sets and  being active in the basin the  profile of the                                                                    
area was raised to attract new investors.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:41:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski  understood  the rationale.  He  asked                                                                    
whether the  state would be  entitled to the  information if                                                                    
the information came from studies funded by the state.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. LePain  relayed that  the work  that the  department had                                                                    
done with  the Division of Oil  and Gas was all  part of the                                                                    
public domain. He  did not know whether  Apache had received                                                                    
tax credits but knew  several companies had received credits                                                                    
for  shooting new  seismic  data sets,  some  of which  were                                                                    
publicly  available  or  were   slated  to  become  publicly                                                                    
available within the next 3 to 4 years.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:42:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  followed  up  on  Senator  Wielechowski's                                                                    
remarks. He recalled that a  decade previously the state had                                                                    
spent  significant  money   trying  to  generate  additional                                                                    
natural  gas. He  recalled  that the  seismic  data done  by                                                                    
investors was to be turned over  to the state. He asked that                                                                    
Mr.  LePain  check  the  history   of  data  sets  when  the                                                                    
department  came to  provide  an update  on  Cook Inlet.  He                                                                    
acknowledged  the  significant  funds  that  the  state  had                                                                    
invested in  data sets. He  referenced the Permian  Basin in                                                                    
Texas,  and noted  that geologists  had gone  back into  the                                                                    
cores drilled in the 1800's.  He stressed that existing core                                                                    
samples and data sets should be maintained.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  continued  his  remarks.  He  wanted  the                                                                    
department to be prepared to  discuss the competitive nature                                                                    
of Cook  Inlet and whether there  would be a market  to sell                                                                    
gas.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. LePain made note of Co-Chair Stedman's comments.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:46:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop recalled that the  last time the legislature                                                                    
had received a good Cook  Inlet update was approximately the                                                                    
time of Commissioner Tom Irwin in early 2000.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  LePain had  not been  involved in  the last  update and                                                                    
deferred the question to the Division of Oil and Gas.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:46:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 7:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department: Natural Resources (10)                                                                                         
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description: Food Security  Agriculture Incentive Grant                                                                    
     Program  - SCOPE  CHANGE: Scope  change to  add Nenana-                                                                    
     Tochaket  This  funding  would allow  the  Division  to                                                                    
     supplement  Agriculture  Revolving   Loan  Fund  (ARLF)                                                                    
     programs, provide  matching grant funds,  and financial                                                                    
    incentives which will support agriculture farmers.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman supported  the scope  change in  Item 7  to                                                                    
address the needs of the Interior.  He thought to be fair to                                                                    
all the  citizens of the  state regarding food  security the                                                                    
rest  of the  state needed  to be  considered. He  discussed                                                                    
ongoing  replenishment of  salmon stocks  as a  solution. He                                                                    
thought  that people  living in  the poorest  communities in                                                                    
some  of the  highest  cost  of living  areas  of the  state                                                                    
should  be considered.  He suggested  the possibility  of an                                                                    
amendment to the amount of the item proposed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:48:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop concurred with Senator Hoffman's comments.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed Item 9:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department:  University of Alaska (45)                                                                                     
     Component: Capital                                                                                                         
     Description: Emerging Energy  Opportunities for Alaska:                                                                    
     Investment  through the  Alaska Center  for Energy  and                                                                    
     Power (ACEP)  at UAF to  address important gaps  in our                                                                    
     understanding  of  emerging   energy  technologies  and                                                                    
     applications for  Alaska. These  funds will be  used to                                                                    
     support  targeted  research   in  key  emerging  energy                                                                    
     technology areas.  This project includes  Micro nuclear                                                                    
     road map.                                                                                                                  
     UGF: $2,500.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman had spoken to  the item earlier and was glad                                                                    
to see  it in  the capital  budget. He  mentioned tremendous                                                                    
accomplishments in the last decade, particularly in micro-                                                                      
nuclear  power. He  commented on  the need  to address  high                                                                    
energy costs.  He believed  the item should  be funded  on a                                                                    
reoccurring  basis  as  an  item  in  the  yearly  Operating                                                                    
Budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:51:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop  thanked  the administration  for  bringing                                                                    
Item 9 forward.  He was glad to see that  the University was                                                                    
recognized for  the work. He  agreed with  Senator Hoffman's                                                                    
comments  regarding   high  energy  costs,  which   he  felt                                                                    
transcended legislatures and administrations.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:53:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:53 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 164 FY2023_Capital_Amendments_2-14-22.pdf SFIN 2/17/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 164
SB 165 FY2022_Supplemental_Amendments_2-14-22.pdf SFIN 2/17/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 165
SB 165 FY2022_Supplemental_Summary_2-14-22.pdf SFIN 2/17/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 165
SB 162 FY2023_Operating_Amendments_2-14-22.pdf SFIN 2/17/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 162
SB 165 Operating Supplemental 2-16-22 Letter to SFIN Co-Chairs.pdf SFIN 2/17/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 165